T. M. Gray, horror writer ([info]tmgray) wrote,
@ 2004-02-16 13:27:00
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Current music:Steve Miller Band--Greatest Hits 1974-78

Thoughts about writing...
Not too long ago someone asked how many pages I write a day, and do I write everyday?

Here's what I told them: I don't measure what I write in pages. Not for first or second draft, anyway. I do try to keep track of my word count, and I do try to get down somewhere between 2K and 5K everyday. Yes, everyday. (This does not mean I always succeed--sometimes life gets in the way and things come up that pull me away from my desk.) The key word is "try".

I don't always succeed, and sometimes, even when I do get those 2-5K words, I'll edit them to death so only about half remain. First draft for me is just to get the thoughts down on paper. In first draft mode, I don't pay much attention to spelling, grammar or punctuation--all I'm after is to capture the idea, to scoop it out of my head and spread it out before me. (Pretty picture, huh?)

Once the contents are exposed, albeit with many flaws, then do I can pick away at the first draft. Poof to most of the adverbs and all the exclamation points (perhaps with the rare exception of one or two); most verbs that can be substituted for the word 'said' are exchanged for the 'said verbs' (Why? Because readers' eyes glide right over 'said' and 'say', but they get snagged on 'murmured' and 'scream'. Only occasionally will I use a word like 'whispered', but only when I'm unable to "show" my character whispering.); and cliches, ugh--if I can't come up with new, unused substitutes, out they go.

After dealing with the adverbs, the 'said' verbs and the cliches, then I read (usually out loud) the draft through for flow. If it sounds choppy, I know I need to lengthen my sentences. If I have a sentence that's more than two or three lines long, I know I may have to shorten it. I listen carefully to my words as I read them, asking myself: Is each word the strongest it can be? Am I saying what I mean to say?

The thesaurus is a tool that should never be a crutch. I keep mine in the bottom drawer of my desk, so should I need it, I really have to dig for it. Why? Because more often than not, the word I thought of first is the right word, exactly the word I need; I've just used it in the wrong way. In this case, 'sentence sculpting' remedies the situation (and I thank my soul-sis, Susannah, for that phrase).

The dictionary, though, is kept right beside me within arm's reach. That's the hardcover Merriam Webster Collegiate version because it's easy to handle. Webster's Unabridged lives on the bookshelf, heavy, unweildy and huge, because there are times when I need a good pipe wrench and the trusty monkey wrench just won't deliver the goods.

In the second draft, I check for grammar, spelling and punctuation mistakes. The 'grammar/spell checker' in MSWord and its cousin, MSWORKS, doesn't do all that great a job. Sure, it can catch a typo (if the typo isn't an actual word), and it catches repeat words, but that's about all it's good for, IMHO. The best grammar/spell checker is your eyes and brain--or someone else's eyes and brain.

Which is what I use at the end of my second draft: someone else's eyes and brain. No one except me ever sees my first drafts. Why? Because it would be difficult reading, and no one else knows what I'm trying to say. And because my first readers are people I respect, people who are brutally honest, I wouldn't want them to think I'm any crazier than they already do. First drafts aren't meant to be pretty. Good thing. Mine are horrendous.

Second drafts are like children with brightly washed faces. Yes, I send them out for others to read, but I also keep in mind that they're not perfect. Their teeth may need to be straightened, or I might have forgotten to scrub behind their ears. My first readers look them over and send them back to me with suggestions on how to make them more presentable. Do I listen to what they have to say?

Yes, even though I don't always carry through on every suggestion. It's not that I don't need the advice, I do, and I always appreciate it...sometimes, however, a suggestion will help me think of something else I can do to enrich my writing. Something I probably wouldn't have thought of if I hadn't been given the suggestion in the first place.

Third draft, for me, requires that I make sure my formatting is as perfect as I can make it. For this, I use the 'All Characters' command. That's the only way I've found to be sure I have used hard returns at the ends of paragraphs, and no tabbed indents. 'Find' and 'Replace' in the Edit commands are handy for deleting any 'white space' (extra spaces after punctuation marks). It's also a handy tool for double-checking proper names for consistency throughout the text.

By the end of the third draft, my work is as close to marketability as I can come.

This process isn't how every writer writes; it's just how I do it. Not that I'm an expert on the subject, I'm just someone who tries to write everyday. There are about a million things I haven't mentioned here involving style, but that's such a personal thing, anyway. If you've developed your own writing voice, you have found your style.

Some writers write a hundred or so words a day. Or a thousand words a week. They may not need to go through all the rigorous backflips of editing and re-editing of more prolific writers. In the end, for the prolific and the not-so-prolific, it all boils down to one thing: quality over quantity.

***

Today, I've resumed my research on 18th Century New England sailing vessels, and Trinidad, specifically Port of Spain in 1742. This is part of the work I'm doing for my novel HALLOW HOUSE. I've managed to type 3K more words on it today. So far, so good; it's coming together well.

I'm still feeling a bit under the weather. Think I caught a head cold, ugh, but the spearmint tea seems to be helping. Glad I put up the leaves last fall. Yep, I grow my own .

Cool news: The anthologies CHIMERAWORLD #1 and BE MINE have been released and are available to order from Cyber-Pulp Books.

Stay warm and cozy with a good book!
~T. M. Gray




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[info]darkficwtr
2004-02-19 03:24 pm UTC (link)
Hiya!

OMG--2-5K words a day...my kingdom for that much in one day! I try for 700-1000 words a day, but I edit that number down to the wordcount that I usually post, because that's what I keep, what goes forward to live another day.

Ditto on just about everything else, though. If I see more than one or two adverbs on a page, it makes me a tad bit nervous. And the tags, what you said is dead-on right. I use "whispered", too, for the visual as well as impact. I try not to use "shout" or "yell" but instead create emphasis with italics. Although in special instances, like distance dialogue or heated arguments, it may be necessary.

I love long sentences, too. But I know better than to have a long progression of endless sentences. To me, it's a great way to portray the mindset of a character. Because when you're in the head of a character, just like any person, emotion can carry your thoughts and make them run ramped. I, unfortunately, have to double check my work for run-ons when I use extra-long sentences.

And that raises a question I want to ask you...
With fiction being fiction and basically informal--the allowance of fragments and such--where do stand on run-on sentences? One of my favorite authors, Kathe Koja, will use a ton of them in her work and I just sit back and wonder how in the world she gets away with it...

What do you think?

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[info]darkficwtr
2004-02-19 03:29 pm UTC (link)
ummmm. I meant "rampant", not "ramped". Hehehehe. I think my southerness is showing...

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[info]tmgray
2004-02-19 03:59 pm UTC (link)
That's okay, I knew exactly what you meant :-) (When my Downeast-ness really shows, my 'R's disappear at the ends of words, sounding more like 'ah's instead. That's something that happens whenever I get wound up, good or bad, lol.

I love Kathe Koja's work! 'Ursus Triad, Later' co-authored with Barry N. Malzberg is one of my favorite short stories...and yes, she does use long sentences, doesn't she?

I think it's not so much editorial liberties, rather that she pulls her sentences off so brilliantly. I wish I could do that, but my word-strokes are shorter. When I read Kathe's work, it's like she's sitting right there beside me, whispering the story in my head. Likely it's the rhythm of her words, which are as important as how she strings them together. I've noticed Stephen King also does the same thing in many of his books. In my opinion, he pulls it off well, rambling like an old friend.

Surely, it must be in the voice of the writer, the peaks and dips of their tone. Well-placed punctuation helps. I've just never been able to write long sentences with such grace, and I suppose that could be because of the way I speak. (On occasion when I do ramble, I tend to lose my train of thought, heh heh!)

If anyone spots a runaway train, it's mine :-P

Much love, SoulSis,
~T

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[info]darkficwtr
2004-02-19 09:22 pm UTC (link)
So in fiction, or should I say in the terms of style such liberties are okay. Is that what you think? That was the same conclusion I'd come to, but it's cool to have another opinion such as yours.

I don't have "Ursus Triad, Later" but then I'm slowly compiling her short-form work. I've got Extremities which is a body of her solo short work, (it's soooo good Gray, really, you've got to get it) and one collaboration of hers and Malzberg's in the Redshift anthology called "What I Did Last Summer". But I ordered a used copy of Tales of Alien Sex since you recommended it so highly; so that's on the way. I have every single novel she's written though. She's my main influence in my work. My vignettes have always had that stream of conscious flow like her work, from my teens even, and I screamed out loud the first time I read her work. It was like validation, you know? Like seeing myself reflected back.

Which reminds me, o'soul-sister-o-mine, I need you to email me your physical addy (again) so that I can send you some money because I really want that necklace chapbook of yours. I'll just fold some cash in a piece of paper and send it your way. And I'll send pronto as soon as I receive your email. Oh, and let me know how much, too, if you would.

Much love,

Susannah

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[info]darkficwtr
2004-02-19 09:40 pm UTC (link)
BTW, I Love that icon you have. So Renaissance. Meant to say that earlier.

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[info]tmgray
2004-02-20 07:36 am UTC (link)
Thank you . Don't recall where I found it, but I fell in love with it the moment I saw it :-)

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[info]tmgray
2004-02-20 07:28 am UTC (link)
Yes, in terms of style those liberties are perfectly fine, in fact, the work might suffer without them. Thing is, the writer must first develop a good, solid voice and have a firm working knowledge of the rules of writing before attempting to break them. (Rules are meant to be broken!) Generally, seasoned writers are more successful in taking liberties like these, whereas the folks just starting out may run into problems because they're still finding their voice. Takes practice to get it right. Tons of writing and rewriting.

Extremities, yes, I've heard a lot of good things about this collection. I'll seek it out today. I absolutely love short stories, and my stack of reading material is slowly dwindling down, so now's a good time to order it :-) Thank you for recommending it to me!

Your writing style reminds me a lot of Kathe's, which is one of the reasons why I first fell in love with your work. You and she have perfected the stream of consciousness style to an art form--and you know I'm in awe whenever I read your writing!

My style, I think, is more like early Dean Koontz (not that I consider myself half the writer he is), but my narration, like his, gravitates toward the leaner end of the spectrum. Like him, I enjoy taking certain liberties with my characters through dialogue and monologue.

Speaking of style, have you seen this technique? Brief but original example below:

"Well," Sara said glancing around at the broken pottery scattered on the floor, "it seems somebody didn't like the old guy much."

Glen nodded, his face drawn. "Yeah, years of hard work down the drain overnight."

"We should clean it up before he gets back from the hospital." Sara.

"Good plan." Glen.

I've read dialogue like this only a couple of times, and as far as lean prose goes, those last two lines are all of that...but I dunno. Kind of feels uncomfortably too short to me. Perhaps it would work better in a situation where time was running out? Or in an instance where there are many people talking at once. What do you think?

I'll send you an email with my snail addy, and yep, concealed cash is fine. $3 total covers the price and shipping.

Hubby says there's a storm coming, and from the sounds of it, it's gonna be a blizzard. He mentioned something about 6-12 inches of snow, gale force winds, the works. Guess I'd better catch up on some housework today in preparation, figuring we'll lose electricity as usual.

I rather like writing in my notepad by candlelight, all spooky and eldritch, while the wind howls like a banshee outside :-)

Much love,
~T

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[info]darkficwtr
2004-02-20 11:06 am UTC (link)
Hmmm, yes, that makes a lot of sense: learn the rules before you break them. I think right now at my present skill level, I'm comfortable with only bending the rules slightly. Breaking the rules appeals to the rebellious kid in me, though. And I believe that art must break rules and other boundaries to become Art.

And thank you for the huge compliment (ten shades of flushed).

I have to say I don't like that certain technique of just sticking the name of the person speaking at the end like that. Too clipped. But that's me. Since we're talking about technique, I like the way you use the slightest action to show the emotional state of the character. Very minimalist and concise. I noticed it a lot in our collab. It's like you choose the one action or mannerism that tells the most, and it seems instinctive. Very Shirley Jackson, that is.


Oh, and I have to call myself out on the tags from our earlier conversation. I went back and looked and sure enough, I used "replied" instead of "said" several times. At least I'm more aware of the problem.

Stay warm and safe in the blizzard and I'll talk to you later!

Much Love,

Susannah

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(Anonymous)
2004-03-08 06:08 am UTC (link)
This will be brief since I have to go back outside and pick up more blown garbage from the storm last night. Bear with me please.

The comments on writings were very interesting and I will print them out later. The way you work seems quite logical and precise. I wish you the best. I have a manuscript squalling for me to work on it. There is never any true peace when writing, but it's fun. Thank you for sharing the way you work. Lots of folks will probably benefit from your words.

Best wishes.
Frosty.

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[info]tmgray
2004-03-08 06:34 am UTC (link)
Thank you for the kind words, Frosty, and best of success to you with your manuscript!

~T

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